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Embarking on a New Tech Voyage: From Les Claypool's Wine Endeavors to Revolutionary Dining Tech and the Unveiling of Wi-Fi's As-A-Service Future
Wave goodbye to the familiar as I embark on a thrilling new adventure beyond Cisco, rife with potential and discovery. Get ready to uncork the symphonic blend of music and winemaking with none other than Les Claypool of Primus fame, who's taken a fascinating detour into the world of fine wines. This episode isn't just about the grape; it's a feast for the senses, where technology meets the culinary arts. Angela Diffly from MURTEC and the Restaurant Technology Network joins us to serve up a dish of insights on how tech is revolutionizing our dining experiences. Meanwhile, my anticipation builds for Mobility Field Day 11, where the who's who of the tech world, including Ubiquiti and Arista, are set to reveal the latest developments that are calling my name.
Sail into the uncharted waters of Wi-Fi as a service, where titans like HPE are navigating towards an as-a-service future that's blowing up to a forecasted $36 billion market. We're not just talking hot air—this is the gust that could lift network administrators into a new era, with AI as their compass. And let's not forget the wireless horizon, where the promise of private LTE and 5G waves a flag for engineers to unite and bridge the digital divide, no fiber required. We'll also probe the updates to Ubiquity's network planner and question if it's hitting the right notes to educate users fully. So, tune in, adjust your sails, and join the voyage as we explore these disruptive tides in technology.
Good morning, good morning, what's up everybody. I hope you're feeling as spunky as I am today. A little Primus in the background. A little Primus goes a long way. You know, les Claypool from Primus has an incredible vineyard. They make some great wine too. It's in Sebastopol, it's called Claypool Cellars and the name of their wine I can't remember what it's called. It's like Pacaderm or something. My brother bought me a couple bottles of it Purple Pacaderm and Pink Platypus. If you're looking for a really good wine I'm not really a wine person, but anyone who can play the bass, that well, it's good stuff, man Alright. But anyone who can play the bass, that well, it's good stuff, man, all right. Well, good morning everybody. How is everybody this wonderful, wonderful morning?
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:It's the week of April, 15th, tax Day. A couple days ago, 15th came and went on monday and what that meant for me and a whole bunch of other people is that was our last official day as a cisco employee. So my time at cisco is done. Uh, for now. Who knows what the future holds, I don't know, but uh, it's exciting, as I as I said before when we first got the labor reduction, the LR, the labor reduction notification. There's so many incredible things out there on the horizon and it's only become more apparent. Lots of good stuff coming, so stay tuned. Lots of exciting things happening right now. But I'm Drew Lentz. I'm the Wireless Nerd. It's 10 o'clock on April 17th that's what time I'm recording this. So whatever news or tidbits of information that I bring up, that's where it's coming from.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:I didn't want to drop on a sponsor specifically this week. I do want to give a shout out to everyone who's been so kind sponsoring this show so far and for the future, sponsors that are coming. Netally was really the first to jump out of the gate and help us out with that. So that are coming. Netally was really the first to jump out of the gate and help us out with that. So I appreciate the sponsorship from NetAlly. I appreciate the sponsorship from Ramen Networks last week. We've got some other ones that are coming up Very, very exciting.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Today, after the show, after the jump, after the break, we're going to be having an interview with Miss Angela Diffley from Mertek and from the Restaurant Technology Network, and the reason that I wanted to bring her on is because we all visit a restaurant of some sort multiple times a week. I feel Maybe not everybody. But a lot of people either grab some fast food or they go to a quick service restaurant or they go to a dine-in restaurant. But wherever they go, there's so much technology that's happening in that space and I know as a wireless nerd, right, one of the first things I do is walk in and I look up and I'm like, what kind of AP are they using? Or I jump on the Wi-Fi when I'm trying to, you know, wait for my food to show up just to see how well the service is working. So if you don't just think about what's happening in the front of the house, if you think about everything that's happening behind the scenes and from a franchise perspective, there's so much that that happens in the restaurant industry and it's constantly going and it's constantly changing and constantly evolving. So Mertek is a show the multi-unit restaurant technology conference that focuses on this and I have had the opportunity to attend a couple of times. Fantastic event. If that's your space, I totally think you should definitely go there. And then, in talking to Angela, a couple of years back, they founded this thing called the Restaurant Technology Network and I was one of the first to volunteer, to stick my hand up in the air to help them put together some programs.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:No-transcript the interview afterwards. That being said, I'll go ahead and jump into what's new, what's now, what's next. There's lots of stuff happening this week. Movement, movement all around. Let me see, I lost my little, lost, my little window. The first thing that I wanted to talk about and we can jump to the events here in just a minute but Mobility Field Day 11 is coming up and if you're interested in wireless at all which I think you might be if you're listening to this podcast Mobility Field Day 11 is coming up May 15th through 16th and that's going to be in Santa Clara or San Jose.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:I believe it's in Santa Clara, california. I got chosen as a delegate for it again, which is fantastic. I love the team over at Tech Field Day. They're always willing to put me in front of some of these vendors and have me ask some questions, and this Mobility Field Day is going to be really cool for a couple of reasons I've got. Let me see if they've updated anyone on the list to make sure I have the current list, but the presenting sponsors, the people that we're going to hear from, are Salona, which does that indoor CBRS and outdoor CBRS.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:We're going to hear from Ubiquity for the first time at a Mobility Field Day or any Tech Field Day event. So that's going to be fantastic, especially coming off of the Unify World Conference. Of the Unify World Conference I've got some questions for them to see how far they've come in the weeks since we had Ubiquity Unify World Conference. They've already introduced some of the switching and camera products, but I'm keen to see what they're going to do about the Wi-Fi. Juniper is going to be there showing off what Juniper is doing with Mist. Arista is going to be there, which is always great to be there, which is always great Robert and some of the team over at Arista such great people at Arista. I'm curious to see what new innovation they've come up with. Fortinet is going to be talking a lot about their Wi-Fi and Fortinet is making some big moves in retail right now. They're gaining market share, which is really interesting to see and cool to see, especially from a security perspective. So we'll hear from Fortinet what they're doing with their latest offering from a Wi-Fi perspective, and Cisco will be there, so that's going to be fun.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:I was sharing memes back and forth with a friend of mine and I did the whole. I'm the captain now because I've gone from both sides of the table with Cisco now. So that's incredible. Never got to present on behalf of the organization, but now I get to be on the other side and ask some questions. I'll go easy on them. I'll go easy on them, but if there's any questions for any of these vendors Salone, ubiquity, juniper, arista, fortinet or Cisco please send me a message, drop in on LinkedIn or send me something and say hey, I really want to know this. And the thing about Mobility Field Day which is great is it's all live. So May 15th and 16th you can send us messages as we're sitting there as delegates and we will ask them for you or we'll figure out how to work them in to get the best response or answer. The delegate panel is I'm so dude, I love that, that I got added to this. I'm so happy and it is an all star cast man.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Uh dev, the principal engineer for a large australian bank. Me for name unios. Everybody loves for me. I need an applause button every time I say for his name jen hubert jennifer's going to be there. Keith parsons. Kevin franzen from at&t. Mark howitz uh, it just says senior network engineer with a passion for private lte uh in education and business. Mark, it's gonna be great having you there. Muhammad is gonna be there, uh. Rocky gregory, oh, bionic rocky, one of my favorite, one of my favorite uh, uh, uh usernames. He's the wireless network director for nike, so it's gonna be so cool to hear what perspective he has. Ron westfall, from the fraterum group, big 5g guy. So it's gonna be a different perspective on what's going on, I guess, from the 5g side. So's going to be really fun to see Roel everybody knows Roel and Sam Clements.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:I mean, dude, this is like I'm honored to be on this list of people at Mobility Field Day. What a dais man. Also, what a group of people asking questions. Man, I don't know if I want to be on the other side of that. These are going to get down and dirty. So I have a feeling this one is going to be super duper technical. I mean usually Mobility Field Day, tech Field Day, goes with a pretty good amount of technicality, like it gets pretty deep. But man, that list of presenting people that are going to be on the dais, holy moly, that's a group of people, man. I can't wait to see what comes up, what questions get asked out of this group. Here we go, anyway. So I just want to pop in with that.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Let's talk about some of the stuff that's going on. What's new? So the Wi-Fi 7 market report. A couple of people have been introducing their market reports of where they think the size of the market is going to go. And you know, it was interesting when Wi-Fi 6 came out. Obviously, everyone's like, oh, it's great. And then 6E came out in the middle of you know, the whole COVID thing and it was like, oh, wait a minute. Well, are people are going to buy 6E? Are they going to wait till Wi-Fi 7? And so some of the market reports have started to come out to see how big market is going to be. Is it going to be much bigger than 6e? How is it going to compare to 6e, is it? You know, are people going to make a run on access points or we can run out of chips, like god knows what. What's happening? But one of the first reports that came out says that wi-fi 7 is going to be a 26.2 billion dollar market by 2030. So, um, this new report. There's a company called what tech that released this and it says that, uh, that by 2030. It'll be. It'll be that much the demand for faster, more reliable internet grows. Wi-fi 7 emerges as the beacon of innovation in the digital age. That's some good fluff, uh. Qualcomm, broadcom, tplink, zte, mediatek, keysight, max, linear, huawei, all these people they mentioned in that um. So we'll see. We'll see if that hits the number 26.2 billion dollars now.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:At the same time, another report that they released came out and they talked about Wi-Fi as a service, specifically Wi-Fi as a service. Now this has been getting a lot of love. You know, meter and Nile are two of the people that are pushing this. I really, god you know. Discover's coming up right, hp Discover's coming up right, hp Discover's coming up, and I want to know what they're doing. Because what happened before? You know, years ago the CEO came out and said, hey, we're going to do everything as a service. And Kirti was there and I was like, wait a minute, if Aruba's in this room and you're saying everything is a service, does that mean we can expect Aruba as a service? And so slowly they've started to do stuff. You've got changes in central and changes the way that they do equipment and whatever else, but now it's like as more network as a service grows. I would have expected HPE to jump out in front of this and start to offer their network as a service before.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:I heard so much noise about Nile and so much noise about meter and meters now really rampant, like they've really turned on the flames or, you know, turned up the fire, if you will, turned on the gas. Whatever you know analogy or whatever you want to use, meter has really started to kick into high gear when it comes to the marketing. So you're starting to see a lot more drops talking about what they're doing and oh my gosh, look here's a case study. And oh, making. Oh my gosh, look here's a case study. And oh my gosh, we work over here and here's some network switching and this and that. So meters ramping up chambers did a great, a great little ad on linkedin talking about nile. It made me want to sign up for the webinar. They've got a webinar coming up to to talk about you know where they are in the market and where they're going. But I really I was waiting for hpe to really step in and really push that network as a service thing. Um, we can talk about what that means to the industry and to the channel and for distributors and resellers and whatever at some point. But I was really expecting them to make an announcement by now. So I'm curious to see at Discover if they're going to start talking about any of the networking as a service.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Or, as it's mentioned at Gartner, it was CNAAS, campus Networking as a service. That was the term that Gartner was using to start to define what that means. You know, and this is not just this, isn't just enterprise networking as a service. This is the whole thing. Oh, it was. Maybe it was Deloro, whoopsie Gartner Deloro. I mean, come on, one of them. Yeah, it was campus networking uses cloud managed equipment to simplify land connectivity for enterprises. It was Deloro. So managed equipment to simplify LAN connectivity for enterprises. It was Dell Auros. I apologize for that, cn Morgan.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:I talked about this, I think, last week where this new term was coined, but this group is now saying that that is looking like it's going to be a pretty significant amount of money $35.97 billion over the next six years. That's going to be the market size for that. So close to $36 billion for campus networking as a service, or networking as a service is going to really, or for that component of networking as a service is going to be interesting. That would be specifically to Wi-Fi, as it looks like what tech says. So Wi-Fi as a service expected to reach $35.97 billion. Either way, that's dude.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:That's we're talking about this, this huge shift, right, and and you know it's easy to look at these shifts and look at the way that the analysts you know say, oh well, this, this looks like a great product. Of course the industry is going to want to use it. I wonder how accurate it's going to be, man, because because I, like I, know you. If you're listening to this, I probably know you, or you know I don't have that many listeners yet, but I know you, or I know your type, and your type probably isn't ready for campus networking as a service or networking as a service. You're not ready to relinquish the reins of all of the control of your network, and that's okay.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:I think that that's where Niall and Mead are the first ones that are dipping the toes in the water going, hey, that's cool, we understand. We're still going to give you some of the things that you need in order to feel like you're in control, if you will. Just troubleshooting Wi-Fi 7, moving into Wi-Fi 8, troubleshooting MLO, troubleshooting multiple AP aggregation and link aggregation, link optimization Just that alone is going to require so much intelligence from some type of system, some type of AI, some type of cloud system, that it's going to be very difficult for people who are today's network administrators to be able to even do something as basic as troubleshooting without having all these tools. And if you have all these tools that are using all the AI, why not let it do it for you? I mean, that's kind of the thing, right, that's where it's going.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:So, seeing that this is showing that Wi-Fi as a service is expected to reach $36 billion by 2029, I agree and I don't agree. I agree because I think that if people adopt it, if people are open to it, yeah, dude, it's going to run gangbusters man for real. When people realize that, hey, I don't have to worry about it, I'm just going to let the magic work. Once it's proven, once enough case studies come out, and once people see that this can work the way that it's supposed to, I think there will be a lot more of us the people listening to this, who will go okay, you know what? I'm going to give it a shot for a component of my network. I'm going to let it do my branches, or I'm going to let it do my small offices, or I'm going to let it do you know, this little convenience store and let me see how it runs and, as it proves itself, maybe that'll start to creep up. So over the next six years, yeah, I don't see that as not feasible, but I think, you know, as the wonderful Sam Clements always says, it depends and I think this is a personnel thing. This is are you okay with letting the robots do the work for you, if you will? I don't know man, so that's interesting.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:So I wanted to start off with that, because those are some numbers that have just come out. And again, I don't know man, so that's interesting. So I wanted to start off with that, because those are some numbers that have just come out. And again, I don't know who WhatDeck is. I don't know if they're one of the more prominent analyst groups I don't think I've ever read anything from them but they're starting to throw some numbers around it. And Deloro says networking as a service and public cloud managed lead revenues are going to go. They'll be over 12 billion in 2028. So 12 billion, 36 billion, I mean, what's a few billion between friends. I guess the best is yet to see. I would probably err on the side of caution here and say I don't know that everyone's going to be able to do what they think that they're going to do. But either way, maybe we'll get some great insight coming up with a few of the conferences that are coming online here shortly. So that's what's happening, what's new, what's happening now. This is pretty cool, man. Y'all know I'm a huge advocate for broadband and for connectivity and bridging the digital divide and for the first time in our nation's history, each state has a plan to connect communities with the resources they need to thrive online, said NTIA Administrator Alan Davidson on X posted on Twitter Very cool, the state broadband plans. All 50 states submitted a broadband plan. All 50 states are going to receive some form of funding. That's great news for what's happening in our community.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:I went in all of our communities. I went on a rant last week, the whole on a rant. You know, last week the whole ACP things really got. You know it's really grinding my gears. But I think that this is a great opportunity for us in the wireless space to take advantage of this. And I said this, you know, I said this on last week and I'll continue to preach this one.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:It's you know, if you're a wireless engineer, if you know anything about wireless, now's the time for you to go and talk to your municipality, to your schools, to your city governments, to your nonprofits and say look, I know how to do this. I know that this can solve a problem for connectivity. Let me help you figure out a way to do it. You don't have to wait on fiber to be buried in the ground. You don't have to wait on tens of millions of dollars worth of funding. You can do stuff today that can bridge that problem. As you wait for the funding for the fiber, as you trench the fiber, as you get the fiber in place, you can start from the top down, literally from the sky down to the ground.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:You can deploy private LTE solutions, private 5G solutions for communities, municipalities and school districts. You can do that today. You can work with partners like Raman. You can work with partners like Tarana. You can work with partners like Cambium. You can work with partners like Tarana. You can work with partners like Cambium. You can work with partners like GXC. You can work with partners like Aleph.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:I mean, there's no shortage of people out there willing to help solve this problem. You know I talked about. I was talking to somebody yesterday about Raman. They're like, oh, let me guess, another private LTE company and it's funny. So many are popping up saying, oh, we can. You know, we've got all the magic sauce. I personally like the ramen one, but you know, whatever. Anyway, there's a lot of opportunity there for people who are in the wireless space to help take advantage of the fact that people are now looking at broadband once again, because, because we sat on, so many people sat on their on their butts and didn't do anything between COVID and now, and now we're at a place where ACP funding is gone. You know, all the carriers are now looking to recoup the cost on their hot spots or continue services on their hot spots, and you have a lot of communities that now are about to have more people disconnected than we've had in a really long time and at a time when it's needed the most. So the fact that the states are getting together are fantastic. Now, what else is happening now?
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Cody over at MacTelcom did a great breakdown. You know a little bit of emphasis on Ubiquity last couple of weeks. Right, I went out to their conference and saw what they're doing. I see now that they're going to be presenting at Mobility field day and one of the pieces of feedback that they were given at the Unify World Conference was about their Unify, about their planner, about their network planner, saying, hey, when are you going to add this feature and that feature and this feature so that we can actually do more with the planning tool, specifically from the RF and the Wi-Fi side, so that we don't have to go out and spend money and, you know, get a third party tool? And they said, you know, okay, we'll start working on it. Well, they did. They just released a new update, I think a couple days ago, and they added some pretty interesting things to the unified component of the planner. So, from the Wi-Fi side, you can now add and change wall types, which I didn't know that you couldn't do that in there, but Cody pointed that out. So you can change wall types inside the planner, which is phenomenal, right? What a great move they did put in support for their Wi-Fi 7 AP inside their planner.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:And now, when you move the mouse over and you leave it sitting somewhere, it tells you what the signal strength is at that location. Now I'm not clear if that's downlink, if it's uplink, if it's RSSI, if it's SNR there's, you know, there's so much to it. And if you're deep into it, like I'm assuming you are, if you're listening to a podcast about wireless, you're probably already using Hamana or Ekahau or IB Wave, so you're probably used to this. But for people who are not used to this, this is interesting. But this is one of those like are the novices getting so much information that it's detrimental? I mean, now that we tell them, hey, the signal is at this level, now do they think that that's good because they don't know any better, or is this actually a really good thing? So I don't know if I still don't think their planning tool is doing enough. It's scary. It's scary because you're like, hey, here's a planning tool and it shows a green color. That means it's going to work. And when it doesn't work they're like I don't know why it doesn't work, it must be the Wi-Fi, let's just add more APs. I don't know If they had a strong RRM protocol at Ub as some of the other competitors that are out there. So the signal at point thing for me is kind of a red flag, because that's good information for everybody to have, but can the people using it, can the people that are traditional Unify users, understand why and what that means and how to fix it right? So curious, there they also added support for names, um, and they added the ability to switch the ap from the wall there, from the ceiling to the wall. So that's, that's a good thing. Now you don't have to just have it stuck to the ceiling. I guess people were planning their networks, you know, uh, with everything on the ceiling, but god, I've been to so many restaurants where you see this thing just like stuck to a wall. So kudos to to the Ubiquiti team for adding those things into their planning tool. The big feedback at the show at the Unified World Conference was everyone wanted them to have multiple floors. So we'll see what happens next. So that's what's going on there.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Cisco's Talos security team is warning of a large-scale credential compromise campaign that's indiscriminately assailing networks with login attempts aimed at gaining unauthorized access to VPN, ssh and web applications. I saw this on Ars Technica. This popped up Nearly 4,000 IP addresses are taking aim at VPNs, ssh and web apps. So it's this large-scale thing that they've basically Cisco included a list of more than 2,000 usernames and 100 passwords used in these attacks, with nearly 4,000 IP addresses sending the login information. The IP addresses appear to originate from Tor exit nodes and other anonymizing tunnels. So this from Ars Technica. So go check out the article on Ars.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Cisco did release that. If you go to githubcom, slash Cisco dash Talos T-A-L-O-S, then If you go to githubcom, slash cisco-talos T-A-L-O-S, then you can see some of the information there. Look at the IOCs. They have a whole list of all of the IP addresses where everything are coming from. So if you need to run some security on your system, check that out.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Services targeted in the campaign include, but are not limited to, cisco Secure Check Point, fortinet, sonicwall, wall rd, microtech, draytech and ubiquity and uh. So a lot of people are getting attacked by this. So if you notice a slowdown in some of your ingress or egress traffic, check out what's going on. But something, something to think about this, is that the whole dictionary looks like an old school dictionary attack. They're just throwing usernames and passwords at every port. Uh, on your network they can. You know that's running SSH, so we'll see what happens there. So be on the lookout for that.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:And then one other thing starting today and this was a couple days ago. But now internet service providers must include labels that display their speed, their price and their data caps with all of their broadband offerings. So the broadband labeling program is something that started a few years back and it looks I mean, I'm staring at it right now it looks like a nutritional label on a piece of food. So it's got broadband facts. It tells you what the price is. It tells you what's included, how long the rate's good for any additional charges, what your data included is, what your speeds are, lines to call for customer support, a website for customer support. If you want more information, go to fccgov, slash consumer and you can find this. But broadband labels are now coming to broadband service providers, which is cool. It's going to show people that now this is what you get with your broadband plan.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Sucks that we have to label stuff because people try all the trickery to get things done. But I guess that's part of sales, right? How many apps do you have on your phone? That's like oh, it's just a dollar for the first week, you know, for the first four weeks of you know the deal, and then all of a sudden it's, you know, three hundred dollars every month. After that. I may have just gotten suckered into one of those, but you know, when xm radio says it's only four bucks a month, what are you gonna do? Of course you have to subscribe. So that's what I got for new. And now what's coming up next?
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Project tian tong and I don't know the correct way to say this, but fierce network, fierce wireless, ran an article about china's project tian tong offering cheap satellite to smartphone connectivity, assuring the whole thing of what we're trying to do with spacex and t-mobile and y yada. Subscribers of Chinese satellite services can use smartphones supporting satellite-based connectivity to communicate with anyone in the region. This is through their. The global ecosystem is developing in favor of LEOs. China is betting in favor of GSOs, and those are geosynchronous orbit satellites that run about 36,000 kilometers covering the whole APAC region.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:And what's interesting about that is you always think devices like what devices are actually going to support this. Well, would it shock you to know that Huawei, xiaomi and Oppo have all three said that they're going to launch smartphones doing that? Some of their smartphones are on the market right now the Huawei's Mate 60 Pro. Again, these are probably devices we're not going to get or use in the United States. That's a whole other conversation, but the fact that they're doing this and that they're offering satellite to smartphone connectivity is huge for a couple of reasons. One is because of what we just talked about, which is making sure that everyone has broadband access.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:So China pushing the bar on this, setting it up so that if you have a smartphone, you can use, you know, earth to satellite communication and it's going to allow let's see, the project could turn out to be disruptive, for satellite communications allows Chinese users to dial any number in the region for an extra charge of $1.38 per month. That's it, $1.38. $1.38 per month that's it, $1.38. So interesting to see. It's also going to level the playing field when it comes to connectivity, because a lot of people are looking at this saying, okay, well, how is this going to affect any other carriers that are there? How is this going to affect the cable industry and whatever else is happening in China, where people now will have the ability to get broadband wherever they need using satellite technology? So kind of interesting. We know we've got Starlink in the States and we've got, you know, telestat, and we've got Hughes and Viasat and all these other providers, but it still seems like you know, I think they work. You know, I've been a Starlink user for a while. It works. It just, you know, fluctuates in speed from here to there, but I think we're getting closer to that ubiquitous connectivity, ubiquitous connectivity phase. So, anyway, so that's what's coming up next. That's happening in China right now. The shows that we have coming up Wi-Fi Now, april 22nd through 24th that's in as little as six days, five days away. April 22nd through 24th. Wi-fi Now happening in Sarasota, florida. The entire industry, it feels like, is going to be there. So make sure you make it out to Wi-Fi now.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Mobility Field Day 11 is happening May 15th and 16th. Cisco Live June 2nd through 6th. And then HPE Discover following the week of June 17th, with a big keynote happening June 18th on the main stage at the Spear. So that's going to be pretty cool. What a good, what a what a good PR move. Um, I'm I'm interested to see what Cisco is going to announce and I'm interested to see what what is going to be announced at discover. You know, I know Juniper tries to do something around the same time as Cisco live, also in Vegas. So it's it'll be a fun time. June's going to be a good month to learn a lot about what's going on. But if you want a sneak peek at what's going to happen at Cisco Live and Discover, well, I guess HPE is not going to be at Mobility Field Day, so we won't learn a lot from them. But at Mobility Field Day, usually what you'll find is what they talk about at Mobility Field Day ends up being on the show floor at Cisco Live. So make sure you tune in to Mobility Field Day. Plus, it's free and you can stream it from the comfort of your own home.
Drew Lentz the WirelessNerd:Anyway, so that's all I got today. I hope everyone enjoyed that was a little bit fun. I'm kind of cash. Today I need a haircut. I got these little wings going on sticking out of my hat, so I've got a haircut scheduled for 4.30 today. Fantastic Shout out to Tonic and Talc. Mr Steve, use a local barber, go, use local barber, local hairdresser, local beauty shop, support local man. Fun, fun people. Um, yeah, that's it. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to jump from here, I'm going to roll this interview with miss angela so you can hear a little bit about mertek and what they do, and in the meantime I'm going to go look at some of these comments and respond, but I appreciate you listening. We beat uh, we crossed the 500 download threshold mark for the podcast last week, which is great. I appreciate everyone who listens and tunes in from week to week and I hope to grow that over time, but for now, thanks for listening this week, y'all.
