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Wireless Innovations From Antennas to Space: Skylo's Satellite IoT, iPhone 16 Pro Rumors, and Wi-Fi Halow's Future Potential
Discover how tech industry developments are reshaping our world! This episode of the Waves podcast begins with a look back at our special conversation with Meter and Keith, setting the stage for a rich discussion on the future of technology. Celebrate with us as we approach the milestone of 800 subscribers and address pressing issues like Cisco's upcoming job cuts. Tune in as we dive deep into the wireless industry's latest innovations, featuring Skylo's satellite IoT projects and their game-changing direct-to-device service. Don't miss our insights into Verizon's collaboration with Skylo for emergency messaging solutions, along with a broader analysis of IoT advancements from companies like Astrocast and Satelliot.
Get ready for a whirlwind of tech revelations, from the buzz around the iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max possibly supporting Wi-Fi 7, to Air 5's pioneering integration of 5G with cable TV broadband. We'll explore Itron's smart metering trials and the potential of Wi-Fi Halo to revolutionize frequency utilization. Our episode also takes a closer look at EdgeCore's versatile new access point and emphasizes the importance of securing top-notch network components, backed by an apology from Palo Alto's CEO. Plus, learn about the fascinating ways eavesdropping on HDMI signals can compromise data integrity. Join us for a comprehensive and compelling journey through today's most critical tech trends!
How's it going everybody? Drew Lentz, wireless Nerd. Today is August 28th, 2024. And you know, last week we did a little bit of a special edition. So, instead of going with the full podcast, what we did is we went with an exclusive with a company called Meter, where they were announcing their new command software, which was really awesome. Give us a chance to take a breath and hear from someone else. We had Keith on last week too, which is pretty cool, but man, that was refreshing.
Speaker 1:So this week we're going to jump back into the typical podcast stuff. Let's see what we got. Yeah, I'm one subscriber away from 800 on the Waves podcast at Wireless Nerd on YouTube, so I wonder who it's going to be. I wonder if we're going to get to 800 today. That would be fantastic. We've got a couple of listeners here on XR ready. We've got some on YouTube. We have a couple on LinkedIn, so hello to everybody out there. We've got a little chat window up, so if you want to chat, please feel free to. Otherwise, don't Send me a text. Hell, I don't know. I hope everybody's having a great week.
Speaker 1:You know this, last couple weeks have been a little bit different because of some of the layoff announcements that are coming. And, man, you know, I saw that layoff announcement from cisco and it just, it just hurt to see that. You know that they were gonna drop some more of the headcount and then to see that they were like, oh yeah, we're gonna do it, but we're gonna wait. You know, and they're doing sales kickoff right now. It's like we're gonna wait till after sales kickoff. You know, one last hurrah in vegas, I guess, but now they're. You know, the announcements are supposed to come across next month, which is such a bummer, dude, especially considering, man, you know, I know it's not like they sat there and planned when they were going to do it, or maybe they did, but it's. You know, you've got the holidays coming up, you got a saturated job market. You've got, you know, so many people looking for work. That's going to be, uh, my, you know, my, my heart goes out to anyone who's going to get that. Um, but it's, that's where we are. It's part of. You know we're in tech, I guess, and that's what happens. It was.
Speaker 1:I was reading an article about companies that you know, like x and like tesla and other companies that are, you know, slicing people left and right tesla's. You know, slicing a couple people here and there and they're like you work for a tech company, now that that happens. But anyway, speaking of spacex and and those guys, let's jump into what's going on what's new, what's now, what's next, what's happening in the wireless industry right now and all the buzz it seems like in the last seven days has been talking about satellite iot. Startup skylo is forging ahead with its satellite iot projects and launching a direct to device, or d2d, service in north america after pulling in 37 million dollars in venture funding from bmw, bmw, intel and samsung. Now skylo made this announcement and people were starting to get the buzz about it. It was talking about using 3GPP's 5G non-terrestrial network spec for release 17 and what they were going to do with it, and there was a little bit of talk about how they were going to leverage it and what specifically they were going to do.
Speaker 1:Because the direct-to-device thing, if you don't know, it's like when you had T-Mobile made the announcement that you could have a T-Mobile device and that would communicate with satellites and it would share location information. You could do emergency text messaging, things like that. This is a satellite talking direct to the device in your pocket, in your hand, clear view of the sky, so on and so forth. And then Apple introduced SOS mode with a number of different carriers on their phone, and now Skylo popped up and they were focusing it seemed like last week on the IoT thing, which I want to talk about in a second. But then today Verizon has partnered with California-based Indian provider Skylo to enable direct-to-device messaging for the carrier's customers using certain smartphones. Starting this fall, some Verizon customers will be able to use emergency messaging and location services and sharing even when a terrestrial cellular network is not available.
Speaker 1:Next year, said the carrier, users can text anywhere. Now, does that? I mean, what's the fee involved in texting anywhere? It's okay, I mean, it's funny. If you look up the history of text messaging I guess the oral history versus the written history of text messaging you learn about how text messaging wasn't even a it enabled and it was a service on the phone and people started using it and then it caught like wildfire and then texting took over. It seemed like all of the early 2000s. But now you'll be able to do that. You know, low, I'm assuming it's gonna be minimal text messaging using direct-to-device satellite. So it, you know, interesting.
Speaker 1:Astrocast is another one, I don't know how to say this name, so I put I put it on here it's S-A-T-E-L-I-O-T Satelliot, satelliot, satelliot, astrocast and Satelliot that's a cool name. They're focused on that IoT space to IoT, if you will. So when I was at a conference two years ago, I was drinking at a bar with a guy in Spain who was telling me about this constellation of satellites. God, I wish I could remember the name of it. They were going to be used specifically for IoT and it was like launch your own IoT service by buying time on the satellite transponders and shooting it up and use it specifically for your own IoT and it was kind of ahead of its time. It seemed like man, that's fascinating. Now you have three, four, five, six startups that are all focused on IoT from space.
Speaker 1:So this is satellite to IoT and in one of the articles I think Fierce Network was talking about it. Yeah, it talked about dude, where's my? About uh? It talked about dude, where's my cow? It talked about how you know, for the last 10 years, people have been talking about using iot to communicate with uh satellite in space so that you don't have to worry about deploying anything terrestrial. So I don't, you know, I don't know it's. It seemed like it's got a good, that there's a good understanding what people want to do with it, but are people actually doing anything with it? Hold on, let me check my volume. Yeah, okay, I can hear myself. Good, I just didn't know if my level's right, so I had to check that. Anyway, so satellite, iot, man, all the buzz, and then now Verizon jumping on board. So it's going to be an interesting space to watch, especially as more satellites get launched.
Speaker 1:Last couple of episodes we've talked a little bit about that. China's doing their thing, starlink's doing their thing. Starlink, we're getting ready. We're prepping over here for the next launch of Starship. I did see their booster fall over on one of their ships the other day. That's a bummer man. They're trying to work out mean time between failures on that. Who knows failures on that? You know, who knows? It could have been a rocky sea, it could have been weird thrusters, it could have been a seagull flying into it, for all I know. But that happened. So space race is on the space race of the 2020s. So so, cool man, I lucky enough, fortunate enough, if if you know me, if you don't know me, I live in south texas. I live right on the us mexico border city called mcallen. I live about an hour and 15 away from SpaceX where they're launching Starship, so it's such a cool thing to know that I can drive an hour away and it looks like a scene out of Gattaca. It's so awesome. If you're ever down here, give me a call. If you ever want to come down and watch the rockets launch or whatever, let me know. So anyway, that's fascinating.
Speaker 1:Satellite IoT stuff and satellite directed device. What else is going on Antennas? So I mentioned this because when I was at a conference it was the Wi-Fi Now Congress of the Americas, america's Congress, whatever. It was a thing out in Sarasota a couple months ago. Lattice was out there and I didn't think too much of it. I thought, ah, you know, I didn't really look into it, didn't think too much of it. I thought, ah, you know, I didn't really look into it and I thought, okay, that's kind of cool, there's new tech that they have out there. But then keith ran a a podcast on the heavy wireless podcast, showcasing what lattice is doing and how they're doing it, and it, just it. It sparked my imagination because the antenna space, it seems, is starting to have a little bit of innovation going in it and that's always cool. It's cool to watch any space turn around and have something new.
Speaker 1:You know, at CES Metamaterials always shows up. At CES I had a fascinating conversation with their CEO, completely on accident, one year, where he was talking about this new adhesive that they could put a covering over a window and it would help direct RF signals in specific frequencies into the building. It wasn't necessarily an amplifier, but because of the material itself, it lent itself and it was tuned for specific frequencies to bounce that, that rf into the building and also to push out other rf that could act as interference sources or that were offset by, you know, by a certain number of frequency or certain phase or certain shift. And man, that was crazy. Um, let's see if I can. It's like a film that you put over the windows and nano web, I think it was. Yeah, nano web, transparent film, antennas guys, y'all listen.
Speaker 1:If you are ever at CES, go check out the meta booth. Not meta like Facebook Zuckerberg, sad for interfering elections, meta, but meta, the materials company, uh, nano web. So, nuts man, or just get online metamaterialcom, go take a look at it. And when you go to ces they have a piece of of a window set up in the middle and they're shooting rf at it, and then they've got a receiver with the spectrum analyzer on the other side and you're able to see what happens when you put the, when you put the material in place, and so you know along with that line. So you talk about Lattice and what they're doing, something similar with what they're doing with the antenna technology that they have. And then I read another article and I encourage you go listen to the Heavy Wireless episode about Lattice, just so you can understand a little bit more about it.
Speaker 1:But then I read another article this week at the Superdome Fierce and is running an article uh, monica aleven, 11, 11, al even. I'm sorry, monica, don't know how to pronounce your last name, but you have a great article talking about matt sing scoring big at the new orleans superdome and I was like, okay, new orleans superdome, whatever you know, see what's happening. And it says a 50 year old superdome is undergoing some improvement. A new distributed antenna system incorporates, matt singh, spherical lens and wait, what spherical lens antennas, let's go, man. So I had to look this up. Matt singhcom m-a-t-s-i-n-g.
Speaker 1:They have large sphere antennas, high capacity, multi-band antennas, ideal for macro venue and events. They say it's the most advanced antenna, optimal for dense capacity, rural coverage and indoor capacity. It's a multi-band for all six gigahertz spectrum, including the C-band, and it works for accommodating up to 48 radios and sectors into a single enclosure. Go check this out, man. I kind of want to go to New Orleans and see what this looks like and how it works. And so in the article they go on to explain uh, what, what this means for them, and it talks about the neutral host daz system.
Speaker 1:The distributed antenna system that's been implemented, spearheaded by at&t, and verizon, is in the mix as well as T-Mobile, and they feature 30 multi-beam lens antennas that need to be operational in time for the July 4th Essence Festival of Culture. They're not your everyday flat panel antennas, fierce Network says, which traditionally are built on phased array technology. They're spherical antennas that are attached to the ceiling. It works kind of like your eye, but instead of light waves, the antenna captures radio frequency waves, said matt sing, evp and co-founder leo. But nope, I'm gonna butcher it. Mattestine, matt, mattestine, mattestine. Sorry, leo, man, what are you gonna do? Uh, just like your eye can send and receive light from multiple directions, you can send and receive radio frequencies at the same time from multiple directions. One lens antenna can replace dozens of flat panel antennas, so the venue can get all the benefit of additional capacity to serve all the selfies during the game while taking up less space, um, and it's not doing anything under the seat.
Speaker 1:So this was this, you know. I'm glad I read this article. They provided 200 single beam lens antennas strategically installed throughout the stadium, providing multiband and multi-carrier connectivity. It's crazy. So take a look at that. If anyone has any information on this or you've installed it, go check out the Matt Singh antennas. That's pretty interesting to me. I hadn't seen that before, but overall I think it's really neat to see innovation happening in that space.
Speaker 1:You know, starting, I really like the metamaterial stuff because it's a film that you stick over a window in a high rise or in a in a building or whatever and allows you to to easily, you know, work those signals out as they come in and not amplify them, but just clean. Clean the air as it enters. Awesome, man, you know what if they're listening? Hey, give me one for my house, let me see how well that works. I wonder if I could stick it on my door. I wonder if it'd work well.
Speaker 1:Anyway, speaking of phones and phones working well, there's a new announcement coming up. It looks like in uh, in about a week we're gonna have the iphone 16 pro and pro max announcements and, according to the people over at macRumors, omg, are they actually going to include Wi-Fi 7?. The upcoming models are widely expected to support Wi-Fi 7, according to Taiwanese supply chain publication DigiTimes. So it says that Wi-Fi 7 is going to be a part of it, and now I hope it does, because that would be awesome and, you know, hopefully we can order those soon. Does, because that would be awesome, uh, and you know, hopefully we can order those soon. But wi-fi 6e, you know, was on the 15 pro and man, I really hope it does, and it is sporting the 245 gig and 6 gigahertz radio, if this would come to fruition. So keep your fingers crossed for the iphone 16 supporting wi-fi 7. That would be really, really neat. Um, what else do we have if?
Speaker 1:Uh, air 5, check, so check one out. Air 5 aims to revitalize cable TV broadband with 5G wireless. I've read this article now three or four times. It's from RCR Wireless News. Jeff Kagan over at RCR had a pop-up on his radar and it's Air 5. And he shared a story about it and started five years ago in Palo Alto.
Speaker 1:A 5G standards-based technology harmonize different broadband ecosystems, from wired and wireless, and they want to offer a more vibrant environment for development of mobile solutions. Lots of talk in here, still trying to figure out what it does. Brown says the new concept Okay, ready. Let's see if we can decipher this. The new concept lets a 5G-based network network seamlessly share cables, hybrid fiber coaxial with the industry's current doxa standard. So is this a device that goes on to the hfc plant? Is this a device that connects via doxus and then emits 5g signals? It will empower a new wave of growth in innovation for cable and wireless operators to save by aligning wireless and wired broadband networks into a single cohesive 5g infrastructure. Their architecture will be more innovative and interconnected. It also will increase capability.
Speaker 1:Air five co-founders, dr Jan Udenfeld and Lawrence Glatz, are behind the design of today's leading technology standards and Air 5. The Air 5 advisory board includes AT&T, synchronos, stormbreaker Ventures, cisco and Comcast. Also people that have worked at Motorola, google and Charter Managing director for Bluevine Clearstone Venture Partners. I want to see what this does. Traditional cable TV is an inflection point on its growth wave. It says so. I don't really know what this is. I want to get to the bottom of it, so if you know, let me know. I was happy to share that with you, though it's always fun to see something that pops up that you haven't heard of or something that you haven't used before, so very interested in finding out what's going on there.
Speaker 1:Speaking of of different ways to use wireless, uh, itron announced that it's testing ultra or, I'm sorry, low band spectrum and base stations from four different vendors. It's in the 600 megahertz and 900 megahertz range to do data smart metering using private cellular networks or using its own private cellular networks specifically for smart metering. So that space is always evolving and, you know, muni wireless started doing a lot of stuff there and then that was like that was gonna be such a great thing for wi-fi because you could put wi-fi in a city and leverage smart meter with it. And it was like, well, maybe we'll use 900 megahertz. And now there's people going, well, maybe we're gonna use, you know, wi-fi halo. That'd be pretty cool. Speaking of wi we'll talk about that in a second. You know it'll be. It's just more people using Spectrum for better purposes, or better utilizing the Spectrum, I think, for their purposes Wi-Fi Halo.
Speaker 1:So EdgeCore introduced the 112. Is that what it was called? I want to see this thing the EAP-112, a dual function wi-fi halo router and matter gateway. It's uh, it was cranked out, it's ces, and now it looks like the weight is over halo from the other side. I listen, you gotta, you gotta love them for the, for the press release halo from the other side. Maximize the advantage of wi-fi halo with repeater mode. It says this is an access point that supports wi-fi, ble, zigbee thread, wi-fi halo and lte in a single ap. It's the eep 112, eap 112 from edgecore, and if you know anything about edgecore, you know that that means that this is an open, wi-fi compatible access point that is certified for halo. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Wi-fi halo is, is, uh, is large scale wi-fi technology. Um, it's being, it's being touted as is a great replacement to things that happened in that traditional 900 megahertz spectrum. It's taking wi-fi and making it available in 900 megahertz. Basically, um, you know, it says the low, low frequency band below 900 meg, 900 megahertz of wi-fi halo provides long way, long range, wide coverage, strong penetration and then repeater mode. You can bounce it and then bounce it, and bounce it and bounce it. So I asked them for a couple of these. Let's see if edgecore comes through and ships me a few of these so I can try it out. I want to see what repeater mode looks like. Morse Micro has been testing this. It says it can reach about three kilometers, which is awesome and very low power consumption. So very excited to see what EdgeCore is doing in that space and you know Morse Micro has had some really good wins.
Speaker 1:But these are technologies and products that were talked about at Wi-Fi Now World Congress. There were things that we saw when they did them. There was the WBA did their show in Dallas and the Wi-Fi Halo people are there. I wonder if any of them are going to come to WLPC. That is such a cool group of people to talk to specifically about these things. So what else do we have going on? Man From last week things I didn't cover Kudos to the Palo Alto CEO, by the way, this is something we talked about on the show a little bit Issued a formal apology for the lampshade models at DEF CON.
Speaker 1:Very cool to see that formal apology Totally tone deaf and whoever approved that one. So I'm glad to see that the Palo Alto CEO stepped up and recognized it. And I think there was an article on Reddit. I was going to say dig there you go. There was an article that talked about how it seemed like it. You know people are like, oh, it's nothing, you know it's just a snap, you know a mess up somewhere. But then there were so many people are like, no, this is a really big deal and we're really glad that Palo Alto CEO came out and made that formal apology.
Speaker 1:One of the things that was popped up last week was eavesdropping on HDMI using RTL-SDR, so using software-defined radios to sniff HDMI signals over the air. And basically what happens is if you have a crappy HDMI cable, the connector at the end, if it's not totally sealed, can leak some of the RF. Sam's video explains the challenges he faced with signal strength due to the highly effective shielding of HDMI cables. But to get around it, he showed an unshielded HDMI cable Good news for privacy. It shows how effective shielding can be at stopping these kind of attacks. He then goes on to show the results he obtained while reading text from a screen. So go check out RTL-SDR. Look up an article called Eavesdropping on HDMI with the Tempest-SDR and SDR Play. Just using Tempest-SDR and SDR Play Very, very fascinating.
Speaker 1:You know, it may not mean anything if you're trying to watch someone else's TV and the resolution isn't that good, you're not going to get like a pixel-for-pixel duplication. But if you're trying to see what someone's doing on their monitor from, you know, across the street, this is something that you know. Make sure you invest in your hdmi cables. I'm I've always been a big fan of cables. Making sure you buy quality cables. You know, a while back, the panduit rep is the one who really sold me on it and they said they walked into a data center where I was doing this project and they said where'd you get your cables? I said, oh man, like I don't know, you know whatever, whatever cheap website I bought them from and they said, look, you've got, you know, a million dollars worth of equipment in here, tons of users, tons of data. That's running across this stuff. It's all going across the control plane of this and you you invest in, that you've heavily invested in, is running across the cheapest cable that you could possibly find on the Internet. It hasn't been tested, it hasn't been certified, it hasn't been approved, and so you decided to save $3 there and that absolutely changed the way that I thought about cables. So shout out to the Panduit rep for making that recommendation.
Speaker 1:Invest in your cables, especially when they are the most important things in your network. It's totally worth it and you're never going to be sad that you did right, because you don't have to worry about the cable. Same can be said for HDMI cables. Invest in shielded HDMI cables. I remember there was that conversation about is a coat hanger better than a monster cable? That's like old internet folklore right there and showed someone connecting speakers with a coat hanger and getting you know straight copper dude. Of course, yeah, I mean, come on anyway, but not shielded anyway. So that was from last week. What else from last week? China, oh, routers from china, tp link man, tp link being called a national security threat. Us lawmakers claim that tp link isa national security threat. Well, I don't know. Oh, I guess we'll see. So that's that's up for review right now. People are looking at that.
Speaker 1:I have a couple articles here from ours technica crimson diamond that's a video game I talked about, uh, two weeks ago. It's at cga or ega style game. Go check that out if you're bored. Uh, what else that's about it? Now, just to wrap this up, there are some events coming up, and so it looks like september is going to be a pretty busy month, as is october, but I will say, right now coming into september, this is kind of like that.
Speaker 1:This one of those trade show seasons wi-fi now congress in geneva is coming up in europe september 23rd through 25th. That's a great conference. If you don't, if you haven't followed wi-fi now, jump on and look at that. If you're in europe or you're on that side of the pond, make sure you take a look at that. It might be something really fun to go to. The one here in the united states is great. Klaus puts on a great show, lots of great speakers, lots of great information at that show, so definitely check that out.
Speaker 1:Mobile world congress mwc Vegas is happening October 8th through 10th and their thing is 5G for enterprise, which is all the rage right now. I've been talking to a couple different providers just today, talking to a few different providers of 5G, 4g and 5G services and how they're going to build that into the enterprise. And then NAB New York City National Association of Broadcasters is coming up in New York City October 9th and 10th, followed the next week by Wispapalooza, october 14th through 17th in Vegas. If you really want to dig into some fun wireless, go hang out with the nerds at Wispapalooza. It's a wireless ISP association and you get lots of people that like to roll their sleeves up and get down and dirty and operate some of the most important internet service providers in the United States. They'll be there at Wispapalooza Again. That's October 14th through 17th.
Speaker 1:Wlpc Prague right around the corner. I am not going to make it this year, unfortunately, unless there's someone who wants to sponsor the podcast and pay for me to go to Wispapalooza or, I'm sorry, to WLPC in Prague. I'll be happy to go. If you want to sponsor me, let me know. I'll be happy to cover what you're doing. I'll be happy to cover all of it. Otherwise I will not be in Prague this year, unfortunate, because I think this is going to be the last year that it's in Prague.
Speaker 1:I hope everyone has a tremendous time out there. The boot camps start October 20th through 22nd. There's already some vendors and stuff. They're doing some side things that are going on like the 22nd, which is kind of cool. Glad to see a little ecosystem brewing over that. Hopefully that makes its way into phoenix as well. The conference is the 23rd through the 25th and then, of course, my favorite show, ces 2025, is coming up january 7th through 10th, and that's actually not my favorite show. My favorite favorite show is in february and that is wlpc in phoenix. So lots of really good stuff coming up. You know, and it and it's, it's great. I encourage you to get to as many shows as you can, watch as much content as you can.
Speaker 1:Out there. There's a lot of shifts happening in the industry right now. Meter dropped some craziness last week with their command platform and they've invited some of us to go out there in October as well to go check out what they're doing and get a behind the scenes, look at all of the meter product and about command and see what they're doing and interface with them. Some great speakers they have lined up. So if you want to register for it, check out my social media space. It's called meter up 2024. Jump onto any of my social medias, look on there. You can request a seat, an intimate event for industry leaders in it and networking.
Speaker 1:Meter up is happening october 2nd. It's wednesday, october 2nd, from 9 am to 5 30 pm at the archery in san francisco. If you're in the bay area, this is something that you want to check out. Uh, sunil and anil both are going to be talking. Uh, jay, who's a board member from, uh alass, former CEO of Lacework, will be there. Keith Parsons will be there. Sean Morgan will be there from Del Oro, scott Robohan from the Network Automation Forum, roy Chua, who I'm looking forward to hanging out with and actually meeting. Roy from Avidink will be there. That's one of the brightest minds in our industry. Bill Britton will be there. Who else? Jerry from Hamina will be there. Sh will be there. Who else? Jerry from hamina will be there. Uh, shoe bomb from meter will be there. Sean rose, uh, nalesh and michelle wood. So lots of really cool people that are going to be out talking. So check out meter up, go to eventsmetercom, slash meter up 2024 or check my social medias to to click on the link and find out what's going on. But I'm excited for that. But it's definitely.
Speaker 1:I ended up falling down a rabbit hole of a conversation talking about where the state of the industry is and where meter is and where nile is and where network is, the services, and where that leaves msps and fars and and groups like that. So maybe that maybe we need to have just kind of like a fireside chat about that, because it's it's dude, it's times, they are a changing. Anyway, that's all I got. I know this episode ran kind of long, but I wanted to catch up on some of the stuff from last week.
Speaker 1:I appreciate everyone who is listening. I appreciate everyone who tunes in. I appreciate everyone who subscribes to the YouTube channel. I am almost at my 1,000 people deal and I was 1,000 subscribers and I've hit 800 as of right now. Let's see who was it. Uh, who was it? I'm trying to see someone liked it. New subscriber Bill Wong. It looks like. I'm checking my subscribers and I finally hit 800. So, yay, I've got 800 subs on YouTube, only 200 more and I get to go to Mexico with my wife and and let's check. I want to see if it was Bill Long or was it someone else. Whoever it was, I do appreciate you subscribing, very, very cool. Anyway, I hope you all have a wonderful week.
Speaker 1:If you have any questions, you want to talk about anything, let me know. Signal Roam is charging ahead, doing some really, really great stuff. We had a lot of launches with Ubiquity this week. I've got Ingenious sitting right here beside me, so now Signal Roam is running. Signal Roam is my pet project. In case you didn't know, it's Passpoint as a service. I'm doing a lot with it. I'll drop some ads in here so we can talk about it. But Passpoint as a service Now it's running on Ubiquity, it's running on Ingenious, it's running on ruckus, it's running on open wi-fi, um, and I've got some new, some new stuff, some new hardware coming in, shipped today, new hardware to test out, to certify that it works on there. Uh, so stay tuned. Look for the stickers to be posted. I'm having a really good time doing that. If you want more information or seven day free trial, let me know. Okay, that's it. Enjoy your week. Thanks for listening to the waves podcast. We'll see you soon.
